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I'll send an email to the sahana-agasti list 10:39 < manus_> sent 10:39 < manus_> (*noon EST) 10:40 < manus_> (= 1700 UTC) 10:51 -!- mprutsalis [~mprutsali@cpe-72-229-149-176.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:52 -!- mprutsalis [~mprutsali@cpe-72-229-149-176.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #sahana-agasti 11:07 < treeoon> not sure what the email said, but I think we all agreed on 12pm EST 11:07 -!- treeoon is now known as triune 11:07 -!- triune is now known as Guest57127 11:08 < mprutsalis> noon eastern 11:08 < mprutsalis> 1700 UTC... 11:08 < Guest57127> right :) 11:29 < mprutsalis> Guest57127: greg? 11:48 -!- Guest57127 is now known as triune 11:48 -!- triune [820efe1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.14.254.26] has quit [Changing host] 11:48 -!- triune [820efe1a@unaffiliated/triune] has joined #sahana-agasti 11:48 -!- triune [820efe1a@unaffiliated/triune] has quit [Changing host] 11:48 -!- triune [820efe1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.14.254.26] has joined #sahana-agasti 11:48 < triune> yep. thats me 11:51 -!- thilanka [~thilanka@123.231.63.152] has joined #sahana-agasti 11:54 -!- mprutsalis [~mprutsali@cpe-72-229-149-176.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:57 -!- mprutsalis [~mprutsali@cpe-72-229-149-176.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #sahana-agasti 12:01 < darlenemcc> Noon o'clock? 12:02 < triune> aye, afternoon :) 12:02 < darlenemcc> Hey Greg :D 12:03 < triune> g'day Darlene 12:04 < triune> anyone else from CUNY here yet...? 12:04 < mprutsalis> wake up zelaz, manus_, chadheus 12:04 < darlenemcc> zelaz & manus are ours 12:04 < darlenemcc> haha - i'll poke them 12:05 < darlenemcc> consider them poked 12:05 < manus_> herre! sorry 12:05 < zelaz> hello 12:05 < chadheus> Hello, Hello 12:05 < zelaz> catnap: is also ours ;) 12:05 < triune> that was quick, heh, afternoon guys 12:05 < darlenemcc> whose catnap? 12:05 < zelaz> well, she's her own 12:05 < mprutsalis> zelaz can you make me ops so I can register this channel with freenode? 12:06 < catnap> shirley chan = catnap 12:06 < darlenemcc> hehe, woops 12:06 < zelaz> but she works with us :D 12:06 -!- #sahana-agasti You're not channel operator 12:06 * zelaz is not a channel operator :\ 12:06 -!- thilanka [~thilanka@123.231.63.152] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:06 < zelaz> none are apparently 12:06 < zelaz> not sure when i lost ops, we can probably ping chanfix 12:07 < mprutsalis> who first created the channel... you can redo 12:07 < triune> isnt there a chanfix bot on freenode? 12:07 < triune> efnet has one 12:07 < mprutsalis> try /msg chanserv op #sahana-agasti 12:08 < mprutsalis> ah, never mind... first one in has to do that... 12:08 < zelaz> 12:07 <zelaz> op #sahana-agasti 12:08 < zelaz> 12:07 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Channel #sahana-agasti is not registered. 12:08 < mprutsalis> yup - neer mind... 12:09 < triune> business time? 12:09 < zelaz> we can sort this out once everyone parts im sure 12:09 < zelaz> business socks indeed 12:09 < triune> agasti2 installer problems :X 12:10 < zelaz> there are two known issues, one is dropping a user into an auth'd session post install 12:10 < zelaz> and 2, having the user/admin modify a config file to set their superadmin user/password 12:10 < triune> 2 failed attempts : resulted in a completed installation (but could not get out of the installer at the end) the framework page appeared on the top... and the installer again at the bottom (both times) at the end of the installation 12:11 < triune> also, i noticed that it rocked out apache server, apache forked out a zillion threads and had to be restarted both times 12:11 < zelaz> the installer script is standalone and calls the application script to start once completed 12:11 < triune> 3rd time i tried (i cleared the filesystem and database) and was unable to get past screen 2 .... it kept booting me back to screen 1 everytime I accepted the license 12:11 < zelaz> the installer script itself, right? it was probably during the data-load process.. which loads up a lot of default values 12:12 < manus_> I think there may be an issue in the .htaccess redirect riles 12:12 < manus_> *rules 12:12 < manus_> I tried the same during rhok and had similar problems on one of the systems we tried 12:12 < triune> ahhh, perhaps a custom modrewrite base is needed 12:12 < manus_> though since then Ihaven't been able to reproduce the issue 12:12 < zelaz> I see, that is a related issue to the installer script not clearing it's session variables (garbage cleanup) 12:13 < triune> i wasn't installing on a root path of a server, but on something like http://server.nih.gov/~gmiernicki/dir/dir2/dir3 12:13 < manus_> mod_rewrite is a requirement, checking if that's enabled 12:13 < manus_> I mean checking if that's documented 12:13 < zelaz> I see greg.. 12:13 < triune> we use mod_rewrite also 12:13 < zelaz> trishan and usman (manus) experienced similar on trinity.edu server 12:13 < manus_> triune: that should work fine, that's the standard dev setup here 12:13 < manus_> ah, ok 12:13 < triune> and have this in the .htaccess 12:13 < triune> ##### for when Sahana is installed on a virtual host at root level ie. http://domain.com/ #RewriteBase / ##### for when Sahana is installed in a user homedir ie. http://domain.gov/~gmiernicki/sahanaDev/www/ RewriteBase /~gmiernicki/sahanaDev/www/ 12:13 < triune> oops 12:13 < triune> gonna patebin that 12:14 < zelaz> :) 12:14 < triune> http://pastebin.com/BkBAMbf1 12:14 < triune> not sure if that will fix it, but will give it a forth go and try if u think it might 12:15 < zelaz> the apache forking is something we definitely need to look into I'm concerned about performance there, it's a fairly lightweight installer, I think one of the bigger database hits is causeing that 12:15 < zelaz> btw, thank you for giving it a go triune 12:15 < darlenemcc> yeah! 12:15 < darlenemcc> thanks very much :) 12:15 < triune> is there anyway to log whats going on inside apache with that in mind? 12:15 < triune> error_log didnt show anything 12:16 < zelaz> so it peaked out on php memory? 12:16 < zelaz> we can modify the installer script to write to log, definitely 12:16 < triune> yah, but we have it set really high 12:16 < triune> like 512megs 12:16 < zelaz> especially for the large data-load operation 12:17 < zelaz> I didn't do that by default because it may also have been a performance hit 12:17 < zelaz> but it can all be wrapped in a log writer, definitely 12:18 < triune> sounds like a good idea so i can give you more feedback on that :) 12:19 < triune> otherwise, the installer is pretty nice 12:19 < zelaz> great I will wrap that tonight.. we have quite a bit of new dev done that we'd love to get feedback on 12:19 < triune> woudln't mind using it for agasti1 also 12:19 < triune> is there some documentation somewhere on how to build/add it? 12:19 < zelaz> thanks, it should be portable.. and that would actually be really nice, would make newer/returning users feel more 'in tune' 12:19 < manus_> I also think Trishan and I had to comment out a few lines of the .htaccess file in web/ 12:20 < zelaz> There is internally, though we wanted to clean it a bit before we pushed to external wiki 12:20 < triune> oh yah 12:20 < zelaz> I can do that tonight also, as I go through the other parts 12:20 < triune> we had to do that also... the CGI line had to be commendted out for it to work at all 12:20 < manus_> triune: did you try the install from the official agasti branch or the cuny-sps branch? 12:21 < triune> cuny-sps-branch 12:21 < manus_> ok, just checking 12:21 < triune> i think thats the fresher one ;) 12:21 < manus_> I don't think there are any major installer related changes between them, but it is the fresher one :] 12:22 < zelaz> okay so i have a short task list set... 12:22 < triune> i guess if u can comment that somewhere on the commit log, ill keep an eye on it, and try again after that logging is added 12:23 < zelaz> great, I will :) 12:23 < zelaz> chadheus has text to speech enabled 12:23 < zelaz> we can mess with him a bit now :D 12:23 < darlenemcc> can you hear this: muahahahahaha 12:23 < triune> lol 12:24 < darlenemcc> sorry, couldn't resist... back to meeting time: 12:24 < zelaz> so (excuse my paste all, and freenode): 12:24 -!- Irssi: Pasting 5 lines to #sahana-agasti. Press Ctrl-K if you wish to do this or Ctrl-C to cancel. 12:24 < zelaz> three issues with installer 12:24 < zelaz> garbage collection 12:24 < zelaz> log writing 12:24 < zelaz> drop into auth'd session 12:24 < zelaz> drop OUT of installer 12:24 < zelaz> apache server forking issues 12:24 < zelaz> and document the installer and make available on the wiki or to you somehow greg 12:25 < zelaz> manus_ look over htaccess ? 12:25 < triune> yep, just wanna know what code to drop in, and how to configure it as lightweight as possible 12:25 < manus_> trishan, what is your server setup? 12:25 < manus_> basically just platform 12:26 < zelaz> great, okay, anything else happening on your end? new openid implementation? 12:26 < zelaz> htmlpurifier upgrade? 12:26 < triune> zelaz: can the installer start w/o a .htaccess and create it for the user? just curious 12:26 < zelaz> hook to internal auth 12:26 < zelaz> I think so, yes 12:26 < manus_> sorry, I mean triune, whats' your server platform? 12:27 < triune> im waiting on chamindra to trace some bugs in 0.6.7 with htmlpurifier, and i will push that out 12:27 < triune> (after fixes) 12:27 < zelaz> awesome :) 12:27 < triune> we are using RHEL 5.3 12:27 < zelaz> mmm selinux 12:28 < manus_> 'k, any SeLinux running on top of that, or no? 12:28 * chadheus shudders/ 12:28 < triune> Linux ceb-stage-lx.nlm.nih.gov 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5 #1 SMP Mon Sep 20 07:12:06 EDT 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 12:28 < zelaz> our production server is the same 12:28 < triune> no selinux 12:28 < triune> its hard to no conform here 12:29 < triune> they just trashed all the Solaris machines in favor of RHEL 12:29 < triune> and I have to fill out an exception report (and get it approved) just to keep my Kubuntu workstation 12:29 < manus_> wow 12:29 < triune> trying to get another ubuntu machine built (eventually) for Pootle translations 12:30 < triune> if it doesnt go thru, ill be on RHEL6 :( 12:30 < chadheus> So Greg, did you have any more thoughts on setting a timeline and final bug list for 1.0? 12:31 < triune> u guys using all ubuntu over there at cuny? 12:31 < chadheus> We are. 12:31 * triune jealous 12:31 < chadheus> With one mac-like exception 12:31 < triune> um, well... I am thinking about how to best handle 1.0 12:31 < triune> and, we are amist a search module optimization here 12:32 < triune> once that is finished and I've squashed all PHP bugs 12:32 < triune> we are going to push out a branch 12:32 < triune> and switch off of using internal SVN and external BZR (fun fun) 12:32 < triune> to just using BZR 12:32 < manus_> nice 12:32 < triune> at that point, I will triage all the bugs on LP 12:33 < triune> (some might not be relevant based on deprecated modules) 12:33 < triune> slowly over time learn the new installer and work on that... 12:34 < chadheus> well, I'd like to think we might be able to help with some of that if you're willing to get it out sooner. If anything we might be able to contribute with organization of some of the tracking of the first wave of bugs / features with the LP tools. 12:34 < triune> start with a 0.9.x release and go from there basically 12:34 < chadheus> Sure. 12:34 < triune> i think we can get something out in a week or two 12:34 < triune> minus installer 12:34 < triune> working on a base database dump to use for that 12:35 < triune> im not sure how much longer our search optimizations might take actually 12:35 < triune> we are integrating SOLR into our search module 12:35 < chadheus> Ahh. Such a headache. We're building a dummy gis package today to test our distance calc functions against. 192,000,000 combinations is our scale target. :-p 12:35 < triune> for ridiculously fast searching 12:35 < chadheus> SOLR? 12:36 < triune> http://lucene.apache.org/solr/ 12:36 < triune> a lot of the projects here at NLM use it 12:36 < triune> so, we were asked to include it as well 12:37 < zelaz> we're using lucene, it's nice 12:37 < zelaz> so we could easily extend and port to the standalone solr server 12:38 < chadheus> Ahh. Yes, I don't know how /fast/ it is with a doctrine backend, but the query / filter language is superb. 12:38 < chadheus> We could've spent a year just working on that alone. 12:39 < triune> i cant speak too much about it (another programmer here is working on it), just know that we will be offering a MySQL optimized search (basic) and a (pro) version for faster searching 12:40 < triune> might have to put you guys in touch with our other programmer (Merwan) at some point 12:40 < triune> if those thing are to coalesce 12:41 < triune> anything else for this week? 12:41 < triune> ive run out of topics to talk about :) 12:42 < zelaz> awesome it would be cool to speak to someone else about lucene/solr 12:42 < zelaz> i think that's all, we know what we have to do, should send out some messaging tonight about our results 12:42 < zelaz> ive also run out of topics, back to the code 12:43 < zelaz> thank you all 12:43 < manus_> thanks! 12:43 < triune> good talking with your guys too :) 12:43 < darlenemcc> thanks for your help triune :D 12:43 < chadheus> Thank you, greg. Feedback is *very* welcome. 12:43 < darlenemcc> let us know if there's anything we can do 12:43 < triune> no problem 12:44 < triune> will do 12:44 < triune> cya guys next week, back to debugging :) 12:47 < mprutsalis> Point of order... now that the discussion is over. 12:47 < mprutsalis> We need to get this channel registered and more importantly, get a log going. There is no log now and no way for those who can not attend these meetings to catch up – unless someone manually copies it over somewhere. 12:47 < mprutsalis> Until such time, I suggest that the meetings take place in #sahana-meeting where they are logged (even Eden holds their developers/PMC meetings in #sahana-meeting). 12:48 < mprutsalis> can someone also take responsibility for copying and pasting the above meeting into a document or e-mail and making it available to the sahana-agasti list? 12:48 < manus_> agreed 12:49 < manus_> I nominate zelaz :] 14:01 * zelaz accepts the nomination 15:13 -!- ghoulmann [~rgoldman@74-92-143-237-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #sahana-agasti 15:13 < ghoulmann> chadheus: good news and some news i'm loathe to share. 15:15 < ghoulmann> zelaz: Agasti is almost ready to be peer reviewed by another ubuntu MOTU 15:16 < ghoulmann> (for packaging for next ubuntu) 15:17 < ghoulmann> unfortunately, there's some work to be done upstream if it's to be available - http://paste.ubuntu.com/556247/ 15:18 < ghoulmann> file modes adjusted mostly. 15:18 < ghoulmann> I have another list of files in need of licenses in headers. 15:18 < ghoulmann> I will share that later either here or via email. 15:18 < ghoulmann> Time for commute. ciao. for a while. 15:18 -!- ghoulmann [~rgoldman@74-92-143-237-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #sahana-agasti [] 15:53 -!- ghoulmann [~rik@208-59-123-27.c3-0.grg-ubr2.lnh-grg.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #sahana-agasti 17:21 < zelaz> hi ghoulmann just got your messages and am looking at the paste 17:22 < zelaz> i will pass this information along with a transcript of today's chat to the sahana mailing list